Posts by new boy

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Shunning taken to the extreme

by unbeliever in

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there is this xjw i know that i grew up with and we have kept in touch over the years.

he was df'd as a teenager, moved away and never looked back.

"k" has family he keeps in touch with.

new boy

Well I guess I look at things a little differently....

I think we need to display love, even if they can't...

Personaly I would have wrote a letter about my marriage and then about my kids....(their grand kids). It would say something like...

Dear Mom and Dad

I just want you to know I'm getting married next month to a wonderful girl who loves me unconditionaly, which sadly to say you can not. We plan to have children....which I'm sure, your going to want to see, but since I'm not welcome in your home, it would make no sence to let them come over. Has a parent I will always love my children unconditionaly, no matter what religion they choose for themselfs in their later years .....and since you and Dad don't have that ability....I and my family have no deisre to be around either of you....When you stop serving your hateful god give us a call.

Love always your son.

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WERE THERE ANY ABDUCTEE IN YOUR CONGREGATION?

by badboy in

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or did you meet any on the doors?

new boy

Well since you asked, yes...me

I was abductee 3 times from the time I was 17-21. I just found out about it 5 years ago, after I left the Borg.

Well you asked...so whats the point?

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Do you believe we are alone (Aliens, God and Angels)?

by Layla33 in

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a post someone else made, just made me want to start a discussion on the ideas of aliens, people from other planets, etc and our ideas of god, jesus and angels/demons.. the first time i ever even thought about this on any real level was when i was taking a greek mythology course and we were talking about avatars and the like, at the very same time i was taking a philosophy course and started discussing "did god create man or did man create god".

it was during that semester that that a group of friends and i started having these very existential discussion which lead to some very interesting questions and dialogue.

i have never looked at things the same.. flash forward to about three and a half years ago and through a chain of events, i am in a room with people from nasa working on a grant proposal.

new boy

The information I recieved is there are over 100,000 different alien live forms in our milky way alone!

You are a tease....tells us what your NASA friends told you.

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Sex and Relationships 20 Years From Now!

by new boy in

this is basicly a spin off of "flippers" sex thread in february.... the future of male/female relationships?....things are changing but we still have a long way to go!

the old paradigm is changing...... governments and religions have tried to control sex for 1,000s of years...and mostly they have done this by depowering women...they have put women in roles servitude to men.

look at the governments and religions of today....they are all male dominated.. its only been 50 years since we believed in the "donna reed" concept of women, as being "mans helper"....stay at home, make cakes and raise the kids.

new boy

I can't believe only 2 people wanted to talk about what relationships will be like in 20 years!

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SHUNNING- Oregonian Article-HUGE!

by messenger in

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http://oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/front_page/101671540232151251.xml.

shunning in spotlight .

wendy y. lawton .

new boy

Thought the new ones might enjoy this. Six years were does the time go?

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Sex and Relationships 20 Years From Now!

by new boy in

this is basicly a spin off of "flippers" sex thread in february.... the future of male/female relationships?....things are changing but we still have a long way to go!

the old paradigm is changing...... governments and religions have tried to control sex for 1,000s of years...and mostly they have done this by depowering women...they have put women in roles servitude to men.

look at the governments and religions of today....they are all male dominated.. its only been 50 years since we believed in the "donna reed" concept of women, as being "mans helper"....stay at home, make cakes and raise the kids.

new boy

This is basicly a spin off of "Flippers" sex thread in February...

The future of male/female relationships?....Things are changing but we still have a long way to go!

How so?

The old paradigm is changing.....

Governments and religions have tried to control sex for 1,000s of years...and mostly they have done this by depowering women...They have put women in roles servitude to men. Look at the governments and religions of today....they are all MALE dominated.

Its only been 50 years since we believed in the "Donna Reed" concept of women, as being "mans helper"....stay at home, make cakes and raise the kids.

In many countries they are still treated like cattle....Hell...they can't even pray to God in the same room with a man in it! If they put a "head covering" on... it's O.K. They get paid less and basicly are not respected the same way a man is in todays world.

So where is it heading?

The day is coming when that will all be gone...Women of today don't need men has much as they used too. They are not buying into the same bull shit their mothers believed in.

In a few years men and women will be totaly equal...There will be less marriages because people won't NEED to have a piece of paper to make them stay together...they will stay together has long there is love and mutual respect...and when it's gone....they will move on.

Sex will be better then ever. With two equals enjoying the experience, without all the religious hangups. It's possible that people may even enjoy sex with more then one person at a time...If love & respect is involved anything is possible.....can you love more then one person at a time?

Your comments....were do you see the future of women and men?

NB

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How Did Your JW Wife or Husband Leave You?

by new boy in

inspiried by other post and threads....and the love to type.. after going from being a self rightious pioneer and bethelite, to someone who had major doubts.my years drifted by me.

i had been a watchtower slave for over 50 years.

one day at a time, i sold my soul.

new boy

Oompa...

Very expencive....Basicly I loss it all....I lost 25% of my Real Estate business (church related) and at the same time had to start paying her $2,300 a month alimony (not child support)....filed BK in 2003...Things are bettrer now. There are some things that are more important then money. Money is not a good reason to stay together.

SummieLee

I couldn't have said it better.

Bumble Bee

Your a beautiful person with a whole new wonderful world ahead of you...and you are are so worthy of it.

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How Did Your JW Wife or Husband Leave You?

by new boy in

inspiried by other post and threads....and the love to type.. after going from being a self rightious pioneer and bethelite, to someone who had major doubts.my years drifted by me.

i had been a watchtower slave for over 50 years.

one day at a time, i sold my soul.

new boy

Reniaa...Sure there was more to it then that....It was our whole life together that led up to that weekend. That week end was just the straw that broke her back. Did we "love" each other? Yes...but did we "really love" each other....I guess no, because our marriage wasn't based around the love we had for each other but around the church.

Looking back it was a loveless marriage, based around duty to church friends and family and last of all each other, (like mindless droids) there was no mutual respect. I couldn't respect her mindless thought system....She couldn't respect my crazy ideas...She liked me for being a rebel when we first meet but later hated it, when I wouldn't fit in with the rest of the cattle.

We were faithful the whole time, we were together out of duty. We knew there is only one way to end a marriage besides death and neither of us was about to do that. I found out how little passion there really was in our marriage after she left. I meet some else less just six weeks later, and felt real passion for the first time in my life. Has Forest Gump said "I'm not a smart man...but I know what love is!"

She had grounds less then 2 months after she left....Everyone believed I had someone on the side the whole time....it was not true. The "brothers" love to jump to conclusions don't they. They always give people the benefit of the doubt...

Gordy...."Ah the LOVE"

Chikkie.."Ah the LOVE"

Just Human....Family members turning each other in....It sounds so much like Nazis Germany. "We must safe guard the fatherland at all cost." God and country over family everythime.

NB

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How Did Your JW Wife or Husband Leave You?

by new boy in

inspiried by other post and threads....and the love to type.. after going from being a self rightious pioneer and bethelite, to someone who had major doubts.my years drifted by me.

i had been a watchtower slave for over 50 years.

one day at a time, i sold my soul.

new boy

Peggy.....Sweet Heart ours are just one of 1,000s of like stories. Stay busy and think of your kids...something good will be on its way to you my friend.

Still in 74....People must do what they think is best so go with your feelings. It will never be a "win win situation" Just don't lose your soul in the compromise....

Galileo...my friend you inspired thread.

Keith Casarona

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It looks like I will become an elder this week!

by outofthebox in

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that's right guys.

as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.

which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.

new boy

Attack from with in....I like it ....just becareful you don't lose your soul though!